184: ‘Chaos Evolves’, with Stephan Sieber and Bill Allen
A conversation with Stephan Sieber and Bill Allen about exploring the merger between Chaos and EvolveLAB, leveraging AI tools for enhanced design processes, and emphasizing the need for architects to adapt to rapidly changing technology to stay relevant in the industry.
Stephan Sieber and Bill Allen join the podcast to talk about how and why Chaos and EvolveLAB have combined forces, and we talk about tools from AI rendering with Veras to innovative tools like Glyph and Envision, change in the industry, complacency, disruption, and more.
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Books and Philosophies
- Walter Isaacson’s The Innovators
- Amazon Link
- Chronicles the collaborative forces behind technology evolution—resonating with the merger of Chaos and EvolveLAB.
- Clayton Christensen’s The Innovator’s Dilemma
- Wikipedia Overview
- Amazon Link
- Understand why large firms fail to adopt new technologies in time—a timely read given the architectural industry’s current transformation.
- Cal Newport’s Deep Work
- Amazon Link
- Offers insight on focused creativity—useful as architecture professionals navigate AI-enabled workflows.
AI Tools and Emerging Technologies
- Chaos’ Veras: AI-Powered Rendering
- Veras Official Website
- A generative design tool allowing architects to iterate and visualize designs using real project geometry.
- Enscape by Chaos
- Enscape Official Website
- Real-time rendering and VR platform tailored for architects and designers.
- Chaos Envision
- Chaos Envision Beta
- A storytelling tool for architects that enables visual sequencing and animation across multiple software platforms.
- AI in AEC: Glyph Copilot
- EvolveLAB Tools
- Automate construction documentation with AI-powered task creation and geometry-aware commands.
Visualization & Design Tools
- V-Ray by Chaos
- V-Ray Product Page
- Industry-standard for high-quality visualization in architecture and design.
- Morpheus, Glyph, Helix
- EvolveLAB Product Suite
- Tools for automating workflows and improving collaboration across the AEC design process.
- Revit
- Autodesk Revit
- Frequently paired with tools like Veras and Glyph for enhanced documentation and ideation.
Events and Networks
- Autodesk University
- Autodesk University
- Annual tech conference where leaders like Chaos and EvolveLAB showcase innovations.
Psychology and Personal Development
- Carol Dweck’s Mindset: The New Psychology of Success
- Amazon Link
- Encourages a growth mindset—key for practitioners adopting new AI workflows.
- Adam Grant’s Think Again
- Amazon Link
- Offers mental models for rethinking what we know—perfect for architects in tech transition.
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About Stephan Sieber:
Stephan Sieber is the Chief Executive Officer (CEO), overseeing global business strategy and operations. He has held several CEO and leadership positions, successfully leading companies to sustainable profitable growth. His career weaves together economics, business administration, and the software industry. Prior to joining Chaos, he was CEO of Transporeon, CEO of Unit4 and has held leadership positions at SAP.
About Bill Allen:
Bill Allen is Director of Products at Chaos, managing project end to end software solutions for architects, engineers, and contractors.
He has decades of experience helping AEC professionals maximize their work with design technology, most recently serving as CEO and President of EvolveLAB, which was acquired by Chaos in 2025, and On Point Scans which provided reality capture services for designers and contractors.
Previously, Allen consulted and served as a BIM manager for pioneering AEC firms and taught construction graphics and design at the University of Nebraska.
Dedicated to global humanitarian efforts, Allen is a co-founder of The Bare Roots Foundation, a nonprofit organization committed to ensuring clean food, shelter, and drinking water for all.