048: ‘How it Started; How it’s Going’, with Ian Keough and Clifton Harness

A conversation with Ian Keough and Clifton Harness.

Special guests Ian Keough of Hypar and Clifton Harness of TestFit join me to talk about the evolution they've experienced in their different kinds of startups (platform versus product, respectively), and take us behind the scenes to share what it's like running companies, building teams, and building software as CEO's.

Other potential unused episode titles from our conversation: ‘A Whole Flotilla’ and ‘Feral Desire’ (thanks to Clifton), which are now going on the list of good names for bands.

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