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# 087: ‘The Drumbeat of Change’, with Robert DeMillo and Jilbert El-Zmetr
- URL: https://www.trxl.co/087/
- Published: 2022-07-19T04:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2023-03-13T12:43:11.000Z
- Description: A conversation with Robert DeMillo and Jilbert El-Zmetr.
- Author: Evan Troxel
- Tags: Cloud, Digital Transformation, Change Management, Firm Culture, Leadership, Remote Work, Operations, Robert DeMillo, Jilbert El-Zmetr, #sqs, #Import-podcast, #admin-gablmedia-com, TRXL Podcast, #ghost-concierge-2

Special guests Robert DeMillo and Jilbert El-Zmetr join the podcast to talk about why they were interested in solving problems in AEC with their varying technology backgrounds, their vision and implementation of a bespoke cloud computing platform, why it was important for the firm to take team collaboration to the next level via the cloud, and more.

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### Links

- [Robert on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/robdemillo/)
- [Jilbert on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jilbert-el-zmetr/)
- [SOM website](http://som.com)
- [SOM on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/company/skidmoreowingsmerrill/)
- Check out my other podcasts too: [Archispeak](https://archispeakpodcast.com/) & [Peopleverse](https://peopleverse.fm)
- [My YouTube channel](https://YouTube.com/etroxel)

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