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# 065: ‘Designing the Designer‘, with Andreea Cojocaru
- URL: https://www.trxl.co/065/
- Published: 2021-12-07T05:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2023-12-02T02:34:50.000Z
- Description: A conversation with Andreea Cojocaru.
- Author: Evan Troxel
- Tags: Virtual Reality (VR), AEC Industry, Experience Design, UI/UX, Andreea Cojocaru, #sqs, #Import-podcast, #admin-gablmedia-com, TRXL Podcast, WIA, #ghost-concierge-2

Special guest Andreea Cojocaru of NUMENA joins the podcast to talk about her company of coding architects and their work with their varied client types, synthetic immersive reality's affect on their practice over time, the 'real you' and the 'phenomenal you' when it comes to experience, the overuse of the word "experience" in mixed reality, how neuroscience and philosophy provide a framing for the profound ramifications of design and spatial experiences, whether architects and the profession will have relevance in the future, how tools have advanced down the abstraction ladder, VR's ability to give a project stakeholder/owner/client agency—and perhaps more importantly—authoring ability, and more.

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### Links

- [Andreea's website](https://andreeaioncojocaru.com)
- [Andreea on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreeacojocaru/)
- [Andreea on Twitter](https://twitter.com/andreeavr)
- [NUMENA website](https://www.numena.de)
- [NUMENA on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/company/numena/)
- [NUMENA on Twitter](https://twitter.com/numenavr)
- [Peter Eisenmann](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter%5FEisenman) (Wikipedia)
- Check out my other podcast too: [Archispeak](https://archispeakpodcast.com/)
- [My YouTube channel](https://YouTube.com/etroxel)

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- [Email](mailto:evan@evantroxel.com?subject=TRXL%20feedback)

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