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# 031: ‘Various Types of Flow’, with Kat Dovjenko
- URL: https://www.trxl.co/031/
- Published: 2021-01-19T05:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2023-12-02T02:38:57.000Z
- Description: A conversation with Kat Dovjenko.
- Author: Evan Troxel
- Tags: Experience Design, Remote Work, Productivity, Business Model, Kat Dovjenko, #sqs, #Import-podcast, TRXL Podcast, WIA, #ghost-concierge-2

Special guest Kat Dovjenko, a consultant to Google's Idea Workshop for the Built Environment and Spatial Syndicate joins the podcast to talk about ongoing observations and changes in the workplace, space as a product, collaboration, distraction and the high cost of switching modalities, and more.

### **Links**

- [Kat's website](https://katdovjenko.com)
- [Kat on Twitter](https://twitter.com/katdov)
- [Spatial Syndicate](https://angel.co/spatial/syndicate)
- Google's [Idea Workshop for the Built Environment](https://rdlab.team)
- [Evan's Architechie Twitter list](https://twitter.com/i/lists/1094625107115307008)
- [MrBeast Burger](https://mrbeastburger.com/), and the [launch video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg2Ag3e8W-Q) (YouTube)
- Check out my other podcast too: [Archispeak](https://archispeakpodcast.com/)